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		<title>Comment on Wave of the Future is now the Past by 2013, 5 de Junho &#124; Aventar</title>
		<link>http://vorpal.us/2007/07/wave-of-the-future-is-now-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-3076</link>
		<dc:creator>2013, 5 de Junho &#124; Aventar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 11:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Five Ways of St. Thomas Aquinas are all Dead Ends by Marcus</title>
		<link>http://vorpal.us/2007/10/the-five-ways-of-st-thomas-aquinas-are-all-dead-ends/comment-page-1/#comment-3073</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill

At first blush, it appears that there was a single initiation of the big bang, which is commonly considered to be a pointin space.
Unfortunately, that is a common misconception.  According to string theory, the &quot;big bang&quot; is simply the expansion of three &quot;curled up&quot; dimensions along a fourth.  All points of our space were existent in the immensely hot mote that existed thirteen and some fraction billion years ago.
All the space we inhabit existed at that epoch, as it does now: It has only inflated since then. 
We have found no evidence of a substrate that our universe expanded &quot;into&quot;, just that the dimensions of our universe became &quot;bigger&quot; from our point of view. 
The bulk, from our perspective is just a potentiality, not an actual space.  There may be other universes, but they are not ours.
Fred Hoyle found that the residual microwave radiation was more or less evenly distributed from our vantage.  It is likely that it will also appear just that way from UDFy-38135539, the most distant galaxy observed from earth.  Unfortunately, if the folks in UDFy-38135539 wanted to tell us, we would have to wait 13 billion years for the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill</p>
<p>At first blush, it appears that there was a single initiation of the big bang, which is commonly considered to be a pointin space.<br />
Unfortunately, that is a common misconception.  According to string theory, the &#8220;big bang&#8221; is simply the expansion of three &#8220;curled up&#8221; dimensions along a fourth.  All points of our space were existent in the immensely hot mote that existed thirteen and some fraction billion years ago.<br />
All the space we inhabit existed at that epoch, as it does now: It has only inflated since then.<br />
We have found no evidence of a substrate that our universe expanded &#8220;into&#8221;, just that the dimensions of our universe became &#8220;bigger&#8221; from our point of view.<br />
The bulk, from our perspective is just a potentiality, not an actual space.  There may be other universes, but they are not ours.<br />
Fred Hoyle found that the residual microwave radiation was more or less evenly distributed from our vantage.  It is likely that it will also appear just that way from UDFy-38135539, the most distant galaxy observed from earth.  Unfortunately, if the folks in UDFy-38135539 wanted to tell us, we would have to wait 13 billion years for the answer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Five Ways of St. Thomas Aquinas are all Dead Ends by Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 04:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus, 

It seems to me that your comments on the Michelson-Morely experiment do not really address St Thomas argument. While the MM  experiment was indeed fundamental in establishing the lack of any required media through which EM waves must expand, this does not preclude that there is motion and that motion is actualized from potential motion only. Further, if the Standard Model is accepted (and if I understand just the most basic idea) we now do have a reference point to which all motion can be related.  Not only a place but also a time.  Well done Fred Hoyle. 

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus, </p>
<p>It seems to me that your comments on the Michelson-Morely experiment do not really address St Thomas argument. While the MM  experiment was indeed fundamental in establishing the lack of any required media through which EM waves must expand, this does not preclude that there is motion and that motion is actualized from potential motion only. Further, if the Standard Model is accepted (and if I understand just the most basic idea) we now do have a reference point to which all motion can be related.  Not only a place but also a time.  Well done Fred Hoyle. </p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wave of the Future is now the Past by ehrichweiss</title>
		<link>http://vorpal.us/2007/07/wave-of-the-future-is-now-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-3066</link>
		<dc:creator>ehrichweiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found at least one copy of the poster here...

http://www.theartiquegallery.com/servlet/the-65/The-Wave-of-the/Detail

I&#039;m not associated with them other than as a customer but I figured that since those who were looking for this poster, like me, would be very interested in finding out that it may well still be available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found at least one copy of the poster here&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theartiquegallery.com/servlet/the-65/The-Wave-of-the/Detail" rel="nofollow">http://www.theartiquegallery.com/servlet/the-65/The-Wave-of-the/Detail</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not associated with them other than as a customer but I figured that since those who were looking for this poster, like me, would be very interested in finding out that it may well still be available.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Experiment with Time by airborn4x4</title>
		<link>http://vorpal.us/2009/03/an-experiment-with-time/comment-page-1/#comment-2799</link>
		<dc:creator>airborn4x4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newtonian time should be viewed like Newtonian physics.  It only works when the values are relatively large.  When viewing the physical effects measured on something relatively large, let&#039;s say an apple, then sure, Newtonian physics works great.  Take a much smaller measurement, let&#039;s say a photon or quark, then Newtonian physics no longer apply.  The rules change and you need to make observations with a new set of guidelines.

I would argue that the same should apply to measurements of time.  The two observers who are 6km apart, would not argue about the time of the lightning strike if their measurements were limited to tenths, or even hundreths of a second.  That would be our apple.  Much smaller than that, and the rules change, just like Newtonian physics.  Measuring microseconds changes the guidelines to which you must measure.  By allowing such small measurements, you MUST consider relativistic effects, because they become part of the equation.

While your argument is thought provoking, your final paragraph seems forced, by looking at non-Newtonian measurements through a Newtonian looking glass.

What I am struggling with, is the planetary  observations.  The measurements are well outside the realm of non-Newtonian measurements, the relativistic effects are still relevant.  This then discounts my statement about relatively small measurments.  I&#039;ll have get back to you on that one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newtonian time should be viewed like Newtonian physics.  It only works when the values are relatively large.  When viewing the physical effects measured on something relatively large, let&#8217;s say an apple, then sure, Newtonian physics works great.  Take a much smaller measurement, let&#8217;s say a photon or quark, then Newtonian physics no longer apply.  The rules change and you need to make observations with a new set of guidelines.</p>
<p>I would argue that the same should apply to measurements of time.  The two observers who are 6km apart, would not argue about the time of the lightning strike if their measurements were limited to tenths, or even hundreths of a second.  That would be our apple.  Much smaller than that, and the rules change, just like Newtonian physics.  Measuring microseconds changes the guidelines to which you must measure.  By allowing such small measurements, you MUST consider relativistic effects, because they become part of the equation.</p>
<p>While your argument is thought provoking, your final paragraph seems forced, by looking at non-Newtonian measurements through a Newtonian looking glass.</p>
<p>What I am struggling with, is the planetary  observations.  The measurements are well outside the realm of non-Newtonian measurements, the relativistic effects are still relevant.  This then discounts my statement about relatively small measurments.  I&#8217;ll have get back to you on that one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;All Your Base Are Mine!&#8221; says Svante Pääbo to the Neanderthals by Marcus</title>
		<link>http://vorpal.us/2006/08/all-your-base-are-mine-says-svante-paabo/comment-page-1/#comment-2730</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched a presentation by Dr.Pääbo reporting on the interim results of his research.  It appears that our most recent common ancestor with Neanderthals lived about 450,000 years ago.  The distribution of modern mutations in neanderthals does not overlap any modern population substantially more than any other.  It indicates that there was little interbreeding with modern humans. 
The Neanderthal samples do contain a pair of  FoxP2 genes which vary between modern humans and other primates, and knocking out the extra copy seems to seriously inhibit language.  This component of language equipment is present in neanderthals.  
The video is available here: http://gustavus.edu/events/nobelconference/2008/paabo-lecture.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched a presentation by Dr.Pääbo reporting on the interim results of his research.  It appears that our most recent common ancestor with Neanderthals lived about 450,000 years ago.  The distribution of modern mutations in neanderthals does not overlap any modern population substantially more than any other.  It indicates that there was little interbreeding with modern humans.<br />
The Neanderthal samples do contain a pair of  FoxP2 genes which vary between modern humans and other primates, and knocking out the extra copy seems to seriously inhibit language.  This component of language equipment is present in neanderthals.<br />
The video is available here: <a href="http://gustavus.edu/events/nobelconference/2008/paabo-lecture.php" rel="nofollow">http://gustavus.edu/events/nobelconference/2008/paabo-lecture.php</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Five Ways of St. Thomas Aquinas are all Dead Ends by Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff&#039;s comment above makes an interesting point, but it follows on Aquainis&#039; circular reasoning.
If you begin with God or anything else for that matter as a fixed &quot;truth&quot; that is not tested by experiment, then you are assured that you will never find everything that is to be found.
One does not begin by denying God&#039;s existence, one begins by questioning.  So far the fact that a lot of people believe in God is the evidence for the existence of God.  To that end, it is demonstrated that God is a persistent meme.
If anyone would like to offer evidence that God exists in other domains, this forum remains open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff&#8217;s comment above makes an interesting point, but it follows on Aquainis&#8217; circular reasoning.<br />
If you begin with God or anything else for that matter as a fixed &#8220;truth&#8221; that is not tested by experiment, then you are assured that you will never find everything that is to be found.<br />
One does not begin by denying God&#8217;s existence, one begins by questioning.  So far the fact that a lot of people believe in God is the evidence for the existence of God.  To that end, it is demonstrated that God is a persistent meme.<br />
If anyone would like to offer evidence that God exists in other domains, this forum remains open.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Five Ways of St. Thomas Aquinas are all Dead Ends by Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Tobin makes many of these same points, but adds a reasonably comprehensive bibliography at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/aquinas.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in &lt;i&gt;rejection of Pascal&#039;s wager&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Tobin makes many of these same points, but adds a reasonably comprehensive bibliography at <a href="http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/aquinas.html" rel="nofollow">in <i>rejection of Pascal&#8217;s wager</i></a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Wave of the Future is now the Past by Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another variation on the theme:

My granddaughter Kathryn just painted &lt;i&gt;The Great Wave of Cowabunga&lt;/i&gt;.  Apparently all the third grades in the school system joined in painting their offerings of &lt;i&gt;The Great Wave&lt;/i&gt;  &lt;img src=&quot;http://vorpal.us/img/cowabunga.jpg&quot;/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another variation on the theme:</p>
<p>My granddaughter Kathryn just painted <i>The Great Wave of Cowabunga</i>.  Apparently all the third grades in the school system joined in painting their offerings of <i>The Great Wave</i>  <img src="http://vorpal.us/img/cowabunga.jpg"/></p>
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		<dc:creator>A Trillion Dollars Visualized &#124; Vorpal.us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the theme of my recent post on the difficulty of truly understanding scope of large numbers, I found a thorough demonstration [...]</description>
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